Tren and winstrol reddit. Anavar works wonders at 5mg a day too.
Tren and winstrol reddit Right now I feel like I took 150mg of winny in a pre contest state. Running it now with test / tren / eq. the studies on nandrolone itself have proven that even when you come off, it takes orders of magnitude more time to get back to near normal. but i think i would take winstrol because it seems way more potent winstrol anavar proviron The dosing on each is 10mg of each type (excepting halotestin which was reduced to 5mg after lasting aggression the day of dosing, yelling at the TV etc kind of stuff, just too much stimulation. Mast isn't a big gainer. We'll see how she goes running Test only cycle for a while. Strength wise I was lifting exactly the same weight as I was throughout the blast. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now The cycle was run for 11 weeks, with ED injects: 75mg Mast P 30mg Test P 50-75mg Tren A (started at Usually cycle will be 400 test, var, and occasionally med dose tren E (200-300/week). In the past I've had some mild depression, due to some physical reasons like tinnitus and some anxiety. drastic difference. Was originally planning to try 150mg test, 150mg tren ace (titrating up depending on how things go), 50mg var. i stay around 8-9% bf on cruise Never did var but tren gave me terrible bacne and made me feel like i only had one lung. The biggest mistake people make with tren is everyone just over does it. true. It’s a little tough on the liver with the tren as well, and my piss is super dark. I feel like my cardio isn’t quite as bad as when I’d just run test/tren, as I was able to run a few 10ks in decent times the last few months. There are better drugs for size, or strength. If you’ve ran tren before go for it. Do you know if MENT upregulates IGF-1 production like tren does since that seems to be responsible for a lot of Trens nutrient partitioning abilities. It's a good adition compound to any cycle cause it smashes estrogen sides and I have even heard it can help with gyno. For me 40 var is high. First a little about me, I've been strength training for 5 years and enhanced for 3, but I've always been into fitness of some sort. Don’t run Var and winstrol together for quite a few different reasons. First meet prep on gear was test/tren/sdrol. Looked like fucking shit- maybe 145lbs DYEL. I just wanted to share my experience here since I don't see a lot of women using tren. 32 years. I broke up with my gf whilst on tren. - 500 test , 600 mast p , 50mg anavar , 50mg winstrol last 4 weeks - 500 test , 600 mast p , 50mg anavar , 50mg winstrol last 4 weeks , Clen, t3 - 750 test , 600 mast p 350 tren ace, 50mg winstrol last 4 weeks, Clen , t3. Tren made me act like I “should” or want to act. Look into interactions between SSRIs and SERMs(nolvadex, clomid) before pulling the trigger. I would definitely recommend winstrol for its aesthetic effects. That is too complicated of a cycle. winstrol made me absolutely blow tf up in 4 weeks. There's definitely some bloating going on. Winstrol/Clenbuterol for fat loss because they think they need a cutting agent as well. 200 test 200 mast cruise was amazing for me without touching my hairline. 100mg was too much for a pump (hurt like a fuck), 50mg was my sweet spot I'm 33 years old, weighing 156 lbs, planning to start a Test+Tren+Anavar cycle. Been on cycle on-and-off for the last 8 years. 102kg (225 lbs). Dhb is a lot more toxic than most people think. 10IU HGH & Insulin to help potentiate the effects of the HGH & damn the hypoglycemia. Whether you liked the compound or not and whether you’d use it again I "Strictly" will ONLY use in contest prep if needed 50Ed Winny and 550 Tren, 300 test/PWI like tren, no issues other than feeling God. Oh and I started the dosage 16 days after the last pin of deca. Compromised sleep, higher body temp, bad dreams. I wouldn't mind trying this, but I don't see it being worth the money. My opinion based on observation (i. I’ve blasted over a gram of tren and ran winny high as 700mg and var I can’t remember dosing all on the same cycle. Some people can't even tolerate 5mg pd. So an example would be 300mg test E for 16 weeks and 25mg anavar. Oct 31, 2017 · I am trying to decide how best to run a Tren e, Test e, Winstrol cycle. I have used Adrol, Tbol, Var, Epi, Sdrol, and Mtren as well. I was hoping low dose winny for one cycle with joint support might mitigate any longterm joint issues. For me I can't tolerate 10mg a day. You can reference tren as an example of this, high glucose foods on tren before bedtime cause the dreaded sweats from excess body heat. As for the winny I tend to get joint pain on it, not my fav compound, hope your gh helps. I was told Nolvadex should help against gyno in the off-cycle, but i cant remember if that was the supplement in question. Don’t let the bullshit here get to you, 500mgs with a bit of winny is a conservative first cycle…if I were to offer one piece of advice it would be to spend the money to have labs done prior to running anything else in the future, be smart about it and know where you stand going in, being big is awesome…having a heart attack or stroke As opposed to the ”Super high doses of tren cycles”, let’s do a thread for low doses of tren cycles. Winstrol can be a bit better for physique but imo Anavar is the best choose for overall health and wellness. Everyone is gonna tell you masteron over tren. The goal of these threads is to generate discussion about the posted compound and get a wide variety of user experiences and feedback about it. Fullness will be there during the Anadrol run. You could run 5 grams a day of tren, but if you completely starve yourself throughout the cycle you obviously will still lose mass. Tren hands down. If research shows the joint issues aren’t permanent I will take it again. I was going hard as fuck in life and I somehow found tren when I was like 21 before I was anywhere ready for aas. Npp gives me acne but my joints feel great, tren gives me a few bumps but it fucks my stomach up after about 7 weeks. Try to lose muscle on that amount of gear and see yourself become the most shredded ever (typically have to pull test way down to 200mg 3 weeks out to make weight for classic) Hairloss if prone (not as bad as Winstrol, Masteron and tren though) Superfast body hair growth and in some weird-ass areas. I had no issues. For the ones who don't know. - This will be my third cycle, the last one was just 400. Sep 23, 2024 · winstrol is what i would recommend, it works well for drying out but not with tren swap out either Mar 27, 2014 · If you are running Tren A, you need to pin it EOD, and not twice a week. Same with tren and mtren, very different from each other even with addition of a single methyl molecule. Didn't love sdrol because it killed my appetite but tren makes me incredibly strong. So you'll go 4 weeks on 350mg Tren then 4 weeks on Anadrol 100mg and increase Tren dose by 100mg each "mini cycle". Personally I think orals shouldn’t be run for more than 6 weeks but each to their own. It doesn’t take nearly as much as people like to do. If tren enters your bloodstream, your lungs start feeling like they burn and you get mad coughs. All opinions welcome. But injecting proviron gives you 33x the bioavailability per milligram of oral proviron. Would not recommend. Gains are going to be in fat loss and apearence with some added strength. It is great for strength and putting on mass. This also causes the occasional hypoglycemia from high tren doses. This way you can maintain a good look and won't lose a lot of strength at all. And none of them touched my hair. Starting today I'm going 500mg test C a week and dropping the dbol and switching to 75mg tren A per day. e. Winny is extremely cheap and I love the look it creates. This isn't true, most HUGE BB's have disgusting facial proportions compared to their body-fat DURING NORMAL DIET. No tren paranoia, no trensomnia. Anyone have any advice on: 1. It is incredibly harsh on both. Oooh is it your experience that the tren gyno only makes gyno swell and doesn't grow new tissue? As long as your e2 or prolactin isn't in the sky. Winny for a cut, var is super versatile. libido through the roof, you feel confident as fuck and greek god body. The final straw for me was she punched me in the face during sex and totally lost all respect for me. Make sure that you use cardarine with Tren, that is a must and also n2guard is a MUST with any toxic oral and definitely along with tren as well. no hard evidence) is that it is highly likely that tren is toxic to the kidneys both through a direct mechanism and through elevations in blood pressure. Anyhow, fructose isn't terrible and cannot be Gotta say I do believe it makes you stupid. I find it interesting that, being more sensitive to hormones, Winstrol was a walk in the park. If I had to give a ballpark guess. Obviously used properly of course. The only thing special I found about tren over anabolocs like test, deca, anadrol and dbol is that it does kake yku leaner and recomp a little, but itd be much better to bulk and cut. That all makes sense. Stopped Winny and bumped Test E to 500mg/week. 25mg Winny with 20mg Anavar 400mg Test E per week. it's rather overrated side effect, people say mast rapes hair while they're on their insane dose tren/mast/test cycle you won't lose your hair from one cycle, try it out and see how you react before judging it. Some is tougher on my digestion and some is harsher on my blood pressure, but nothing that isnt expected. 285 votes, 181 comments. I lift for around 10 years, on-and-off, with a few longer breaks and quite extreme setbacks (largest one because of testicular cancer). Sep 5, 2024 · my goal is to recomp and cut down mostly and really tighten up my physique. Feb 14, 2023 · 4. EDIT Good looking out testtrensdrol: "Anavar, winny, anadrol, sdrol, and DHB are also DHT derivatives. Its been around for a long timejust like fashionfads come and go with juice too. I feel like a broken record but test and primo is better than basically anything. Didn’t have the best diet and the tren led to me feeling like I could get away with cheatmeals all the time. Did not get any tren like paranoia, but had some instances of very violent thoughts (note: only thoughts so this was probably still "mild"). Winny was ran for 4 weeks at 50mg Ed, split between am and pm 25/25. Winstrol’s anabolic effects come without a notable surge in water weight, allowing lean and aesthetic gains instead of bloated-looking muscles. I blame that on tren being an overrated drug, not on using dbol as a HRT base, although that couldve been the case. Jun 14, 2021 · Unless you don’t care about your cholesterol or hair, I wouldn’t use Winstrol. Have tried most things out there. Should mention the Winstrol derivative I'd like to use is called Stanozolol. its not a matter of going off tren and becoming zen. High Tren, Low Test: Allright my bad, im not a native english speaker. Tren A: You are now a sex god and you want the bug booty bitches know. tren e, and 200 test e per week over 12 weeks with pct. 2. My Goal is to put on 15-20 lbs and loose the belly fat. My general bro science advice on cutting with tren is to keep e2 as low as possible. I'm just looking for something to stack it with. My first instinct is like this: tren ace 50mgs EOD winstrol So, thinking of doing my first cycle with Anavar 10mg/ twice a day, and Winstrol 10mg/ 3 times a day, for two months. Not because of tren rage, but because I was not scared to be alone and put up with being in a physically and emotionally abusive relationship. Sides: At higher doses, (20+mg/day) I would get a mild version of sides that people say they experience on tren. From personal experience and current cycle, I’m on 400mg test E, 300mg NPP, 25mg anavar, 50mg winstrol. Winstrol is an oral steroid that’s also a powerful compound like trenbolone (although to a lesser degree). It gives you a look while ok and other compounds do the work. My mind feels warped and my joints, even down to my fingers feel achey and brittle. Tren+Winny is a 1+1=3 combo, the mood boost it gives really helps out. May 3, 2024 · Just an update - dropped tren at week 8, rolling into 4 more weeks of Masteron @ 500mg per week / Test @ 750mg per week. Winstrol actually gave me cardiovascular energy and strength gains etc, which is what I was looking for the May 18, 2021 · I would go with 40-50 mg of winstrol and 300-350 mg of tren. Dropped the tren and continued the test for 2 weeks and finally We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Anything is better than tren. It was a tren cycle with Tren A (10 weeks) first and then tren E (6 weeks). Worst Experience: -500 tren a -500 test e (swapped to prop 2 weeks out) -400 mast (used 3 weeks out) -winstrol 20mg a day -clen 40mcg -t3 125mcg The t3 fucked me completely. Did your nips get big af on all the tren after you dropped the winny? On 600 test 200 tren in 2-3 weeks it made my existing progestogenic gyno triple in size but now it's 95% shrunk back to normal. Or check it out in the app stores But DHT derivatives like tren, masteron, anavar, winstrol will be I only ask because injectable winny definitely hurts most people pretty bad, and as pre-workout injectable winstrol isn't really effective because its half life is something like almost 1 day. Tren, Dbol, Halo, Sdrol, Mtren, NPP, Winstrol, Anavar, Test suspension, Tren suspension. Winstrol is a more powerful compounds mg per mg at the cost of being more toxic of course. If you use it make sure to megadose NAC. Hardness will come from the Tren. Share 19 votes, 26 comments. No diet, no discipline whatsoever and I went off the deep end. And that was back in the day when Serostim kits were floating around everywhere but werent nearly as cheap as todays blue tops (or grn tops or black tops or whatever the fucking color of It gave me the benefits from Anavar that people are talking about, plus the benefits from Winstrol. Winstrol will cause higher BP and heartrate. Just pulled test and NPP last week to get rid of water retention. This is a contest prep cycle. I’m debating right now if it’s even worth going to train today at half weight and volume. ). You MUST run caber (liquid dostinex) with it on cycle to control prolactin. 4 weeks out start anavar or winstrol. I mean imagine being 4% body-fat and still having an average looking face definition or worse, that's a sign of bloating, once they get to 12% body-fat they'll look trash. In my off season I only use test and do the majority of my building there. And it was a long one. if you guys like any of these ideas or have more, please message me and we will slowly get through the ones people want to see. Max imma run Winny is 6 weeks Winstrol made me feel pretty good, made me pretty damn horny, dried my legs out a ton and brought out some annoying to get quad veins finally. I want to see how these 2 stack together on top of TNE. And I do have Winstrol 50mg tabs and Semaglutide on hand as well but overall I'd like to limit the amount of stuff I'm injecting and ingesting moving forward. Can anyone suggest if the below Protocol is good or is it too much? Weeks 1-10 : 200mg Test/Week + 200mg Tren/Week Weeks 11-14: 200mg Test/Week + 30mg Anavar/Week We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Length of cycle. My facial hair has always been pretty shitty and patchy, but a round of EQ, Test E, and some Tren have yielded unexpected… Seen a few oil based winny, mainly UGL’s but some "pharma" European & Middle eastern inj stanozolol oil based. " Of those, I'd prob split them into 3 groups: DHB (with above), adrol+sdrol, var+winny. Then 6 weeks of oral winni on top at the end of the cycle. . After every shower I could scoop up a fucking hairball off the tub. 50mg Winny with 400mg Test E per week, felt sick all the time, couldn't sleep more than 5hrs, got acne on my shoulders, joints were achy, face looked jaundiced a couple times. I considered halo, but I really can't put my gf through the crazyness halo and tren will probably cause. But here is what I experienced: 1) dried me out further and I did look pretty good 2) joints hurt so bad I literally couldn't bend my legs when walking after a hard cardio session. edit: winstrol is surprisingly tough on the liver at 50 mg per day, and you will really need more TUDCA than you think Oral Winny increases my libido the most of anything I’ve tried (testosterone, nandrolone, tren, Dianabol) I used to use it with Deca - it allowed me to stay very cut while growing from the Deca. Then extend the cycle length or ramp the dose / add mast after you've tested your gear potency / sensitivity to sides. Rotate Tren A and Anadrol at 4 weeks on 4 weeks off. Can taper up the Tren as needed. For those unaware, each week we have a specific steroid or PED up for discussion. Currently on 50mg a day for 4 weeks (ending tomorrow 😭). winstrol is better for bringing temporary texture gains to stage lean physiques, or an oral application to temporarily boost power to weight. I’m leaning out by the day and I’m starting to look like a freak with only 2 weeks on the drug, tren also plays a part but still, very underrated combo. Run it at 0. If its your first time Id sit on 350/week for a good 3-4 weeks and see how you fare. This is due to it being an oral steroid that produces powerful fat-burning and muscle-building effects. Doses weren’t that high always or even most of the time but tren never dipped below 400 and winny never below 350. This week the compound is Oxymethalone aka Drol, Adrol and Anadrol. Did mast prop last year and made me look dry with veins popping. Mystery gyno. Randomly started taking test tren and winstrol LOL. Orals are not nearly as great as people believe they are. Normally people save the orals for the last 4 weeks of cycle and normally I see Winstrol (to dry up) Or anadrol (when on t3 to avoid getting flat). Trenbolone and Winstrol. There's no point in really using it unless you are already lean and trying to achieve a specific look. Honestly rad140 made me look more shredded and striated than tren and what was supposedly winny. So if run the product at 1. superdrol is best used to carb load on peak week to stage and/or to ramp neurology into a strength meet seeing as it tends to fuck you after 2 weeks and offers nothing additional in anabolism compared to Best shape id ever been in was Tren, test, eq, winny and gh. You're more likely to get shitty sides from Winny than you are at 500 test. Bumped anavar to 50mg and winstrol to 75mg today. Winny for example could definitely substitute for masteron in some cases. The contest prep cycle threads we've had focused mostly on the basic prep cycle of test p + tren ace + mast p, adding in winstrol, clen & t3 - so I want to focus discussion on some additional compounds and how to integrate them optimally: Man, as most people are saying, they are different compounds but for what I've learned. What PCT I should run, when, and at what levels. But, assuming an average beginner cycle (500-600mg/week of test) you can probably expect to gain as much as 15-25 pounds, depending on your existing muscle mass. Second meet prep on gear was test/tren/deca/dbol which I just finished. If everything else is in line they shouldn't need this. something like even after 6 months to a year off of 8-12 week deca cycles, people's brains were still recovering with altered neurotransmitter I'm starting with 350mg a week of test P and 50mg of dbol a day to get it jump started. masteron also made me look waaay leaner and vascular in like 4 weeks aswell. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. On a 1700 calorie deficit diet. Anavar works wonders at 5mg a day too. Oct 29, 2023 · Winstrol (stanozolol), otherwise known as Winny, is a commonly used steroid in bodybuilding. Var, strength, pump, good headspace. It basically gives me a “fuck it” mentality and my level of risk that I chance after sky-rockets. Tren dosages were moderate (350-500) and test was at 250. ) And I've gotten as far as all of the combos with everything except proviron. All good in the hood. Good sense of well-being. Dosage. Winstrol is a cosmetic finisher drug. Happy and friendly, gains are decent but nothing outside of the normal test cycle, a little tren makes up for small diet mistakes and helps keep extra fat off. You're gasping for air for what feels like minutes. That said I've never tried to run both anavar and winstrol at the same time. 186cm (6,1 feet). As far as stats I’m 5’6, 185lbs, 15% bf (prolly closer to 20%). It doesn’t build muscle well. Anavar and winstrol are both oral steroids and should be run with testosterone as the base. Overall tho, good cycle to use just 1 injectable and 1 oral some future thread ideas i was given: tbol vs var, m1t vs sdrol, DHB vs tren, DHB vs primo, pregnenolone, hair loss mitigation, cycles/enhanced cruises for well being. Total you will need : Test cyp or enanthate - 3-4 bottles EQ- 3 bottles Test prop - 7 btls Masteron acetate - 4-5 btls Tren acetate - 4-5 btls Winstrol 50 mg tabs- 40 tabs or use var you have Proviron 50 mg tabs - 30 tabs Halotestin 10 mg tabs - 50 tabs ( totally optional ) Best steroid alongside tren And so far I’ve used Test Npp/Deca EQ anavar dbol anadrol winstrol tren Tren is the only one comparable in terms of how much muscle tissue (not weight, not LBM, but contractile tissue) it puts on. Stats & Background Info. havent done alot of stuff. When taking it with things like tren or stronger dry orals, its effects may have still been present, but they were greatly overshadowed to the point where I felt no different whether I was using Proviron at 100mg/day or not at all. Masteron is more anabolic than proviron. Tren is what has helped my beard so far but any dht is sure to give hair gains, just hard to say where. Winstrol also has muscle-building and fat-burning attributes that occur simultaneously, causing notable transformations. Had luscious hair before ever running tren. Another one that Dylan has done videos on in the past is using mk2866 with winstrol to help with any joint issues that could occur. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’d take arimidex with test and nandrolone and it’d reduce a lot of bloat but winstrol made it great as above. As others have said though, finasteride and dutasteride, though not always that cheap, can help a lot. Probably in doses way too high and for way too fucking long but it got me where I wanted to be. Increasing IGF lowers blood sugar basically allowing you to eat more and not spill over to fat essentially. I guess it just depends on the person. Now three cycles later and I look like fucking Vegeta. Winstrol works well in lower dosageslike 5mg a day. I look very full, separated, and grainy. but either winstrol or masteron. I was having issues getting anavar from my clinic due to the state I'm in so they offered winny instead 150-200mg test + anadrol and winstrol Third cycle just on 300mg test i read 25mg anadrol with 10-20mg winstrol for 4-6 weeks is a good combo although toxic Of course AI, tudca and Nac,cialas , and nolva (if needed) are included. On r/PEDs, the issue is that not only the Guy asking stupid question or sharing their horrendous cycle are 1 digit IQ but the guys answering are just as dumb. I don’t personally care for mast honestly. Overall, hair loss is just a risk you have to accept. 5ML per week - so 150 Test, 150 Tren, and 150 Mast - Is that significant enough for noticeable visual effects? Either that or 200mg/weekly each. Winny was the worse I've experienced, tren may have hurt it a bit but I can't say conclusively yet. I know there are many people using only low doses(100-250mg) of tren, instead of the usual 300-700mg/week. I was loosing 3-4 kilos a month without no lose skin at all. 3. Absolutely killed my appetite even with good liver support. Yes i really want to focus on diet and training and using the gear as a bonus, since i started using gear i realise i relied too much on it, my last blast was 500mg of tren e with 500mg of test cyp, and after 8 weeks i switched the tren for 800mg of deca, which is WAY too much for someone my size (6ft tall and around 200pounds 15% bodyfat). Winny is your #1 photoshoot/beach body/hardening bodybuilding contest drug - unless those are the goals, it is the wrong choice. If it were me I'd start off at Tren 300mg/w, test 180mg/w, no mast. Have only run tren with TRT test up to 500 test, no higher so cant speak on high test/low tren or high test/high tren cycles. Also have dabbled in turinabol, but it’s really expensive. I'd say 25mg Winstrol is probably similar to that 40 var you're talking about. I've ran winny at the end of a 3 month bulk cycle (test e -750, deca - 750, EQ - 800). Anavar destroys my sleep worse than tren. The legit compounds with always be popular (test+deca+DBol+anadrol+winstrol+tren+anavar+hgh) and never go out of style. SGhost also did an oil based inj Winstrol. Tren + Adrol is not recommended due to increased chance of gyno, but fuck it. That's not to say the winstrol won't make you look good, just as like 30 min pre-workout idt youd feel anything besides the tren suspension Although tren gives a more lean muscley look where as Npp gives a more bubbley muscle look. There is an interaction. Other than that made me look harder and definitely helped me loosing fat without breaking down any muscle. I tried large doses for about 6 weeks - 1,000mg test Enanthate and 600mg Deca with 150mg of injectable Zambon Winny. To some degree probably but most likely not as toxic as any of the more common methylated steroids (dbol, anadrol, winstrol etc. Mast and test will work synergistically so won’t need an ai, Anavar is Anavar no real explanation needed it’s a good little cherry on top, and the masteron if your low enough will do what the winstrol would do anyway just without the joint pain and liver toxicity AND it’s more anabolic the first choice so more muscle mass/ recomp effects. 5mg twice per week. It blows my mind that there are people on here that can accept the idea of the benefits of trt but refuse to accept other compounds and their benefits. Well r/steroids attract dumb people aswell but at least people that answer there are a bit educated. Had amazing results cutting. Probably 1000mg for every 10mg of superdrol Week 12 = mass prop and tren ace to 1050mg added halo test added 20 mg / day Show week = cut out all injectables until Wednesday , 3000mg test e, mass prop and tren to 1400mg 100mg winstrol, halo test 40mg, gh to 5iu, 75 proviron, For the 2nd show, similar but in last weeks did 1700 prop, tren 1050, 100mg anavar + winstrol, Realistically nothing compares to tren at all. It never really lead me to the point to get panic attacks and feel suicidal almost everyday, I used very harsh anabolic steroids named trenbolone, which supposedly can cause Alzheimer with very long term use, and can cross the blood brain barrier, the weird thing in total is I only used it 200-400mg Tren-A, because Tren is known to be super strong & powerful. Ended that anavar blast with 4 weeks of winstrol and it completely hardened me to a point where I was very happy. What put the nail in the coffin though was Tren/Mast/Var 250wk/350wk/50d. I tried very large doses for 2 weeks - 1,500 Test E, 800 Deca and 150mg Winny. Planning on running Adrol + TNE on top of tren soon as my new gear arrives. I thought about adrol, but I'm afraid of too much bloat. Tren adds a level of cool headed assertiveness for me that really helps me close deals and negotiate. Tren A 6 weeks out. I am currently suffering from a lot of side effects after a 16 week tren cycle and am turning to you guys for your help because some of this stuff is really making my life horrible. No hair loss at all. I’m about 12% body fat and would like to get under 10% and around 158 lbs looking to do a quick cycle for 6 weeks using trenbolone, winstrol and test prop. Winny is gonna dry you out, would want to be at a lower bf. After that was finally done, I was already taking tren and test for 22 weeks so I just called it quits. This is because tren inhibits DNL entirely and forces all excess glucose to be burned off. Skip the winstrol. And a lot more people who are curious about low-dose tren cycles. I've done this stack (your current stack plus winstrol for 30 days) and I felt like it was a temporary only change that was just hard on my liver. 2 weeks out start halo pre cardio and pre training (10mg each) Pull pins out 10 days out. Blood pressure is becoming extremely difficult to manage and I can’t get it any lower than 145-90 on average unless it’s first thing in the morning. Both me and my friend ran it the same time, he developed gyno, i didn't. I like Npp, but I prefer the tren look with a fucked up stomach than the Npp look with zits all over my chest and shoulders. Ive now used Magnus inj Winny & Arenis inj winny, both 50mg/ml, daily subQ, no issues at all no ‘welts’ or mad ‘burning and shredding of nerves’ as was told on some comms and forums. qlmtdgtsdywbzrypnmjarcromicbohxeotoaighpvdtwqavjnxbprmhmsoussnttgngkikacsalgi